Wednesday, December 31, 7000

Permanent Top Post by JM Talboo and Steve W.



By JM Talboo and Steve W.

http://911debunkers.blogspot.com/2008/10/debunking-myths-on-conspiracy-theories.htmlMany people subconsciously make the mistake of only seeing the issues concerning 9/11 in black and white, as opposed to shades of gray. This is known as the black-or-white fallacy. In this case, the false dilemma is: 9/11 was either carried out by Al-Qaeda or it was "an inside job."

Just because the evidence suggests that rogue elements of US and other international intelligence agencies were involved doesn't mean bin Laden and Al-Qaeda hijackers weren't involved.

In the fight to uncover the truth about 9/11 we must contend with individuals and groups that distort, omit and lie about important details in order to defend the official narrative - the 911 truth debunkers.

 

The NORAD-stand-down, various whistleblowers, and physical evidence centered around the destruction of the 3 World Trade Center Buildings in New York, make a strong case that the attacks involved substantial inside help.

“I think it’s implausible to believe that 19 people, most of whom didn’t speak English, most of whom had never been in the United States before, many didn’t have a high school education, could have carried out such a complicated task without some support from within the United States”
Former Sen. Bob Graham on 60-Minutes 




We might be wrong about where we suspect this all leads, but the "debunkers" are wrong when many essentially argue that it's acceptable for 70% of 9/11 family members questions to have never been answered by the 9/11 Commission. So of course, most have no qualms about promises made to 9/11 family members being broken by the Commission to investigate all whistleblower claims, which a substantial amount of the public find highly-suspicious at minimum, with many regarding the evidence as suggestive of complicity to varied degrees.

The below link proves that many thousands of family members want a new investigation. Likely the amount of people killed that day is outnumbered by these 9/11 victim's family members.


[On the left side (above) is a video of WTC 7 collapsing. On the right side is a video of a controlled demolition.]


So it stands to reason, that these ilk feel the lack of air defense story is above scrutiny to the point that secrecy and rewards are warranted. So what if this tale consists of 3, or some contend 4, mutually contradictory versions of events and admitted lies. It makes perfect sense that the top officials from NORAD and the FAA received promotions, as opposed to having to provide documents with data that would prove that the jet fighters were acceptably responsive, given the past response time averages.


Unsurprisingly, the duh-bunkturds hate even the best of the "Loose Change" films, but loose ends are no biggie.

The Washington Post reported on August 2, 2006 that:
Suspicion of wrongdoing ran so deep that the 10-member commission, in a secret meeting at the end of its tenure in summer 2004, debated referring the matter to the Justice Department for criminal investigation, according to several commission sources... "We to this day don't know why NORAD [the North American Aerospace Command] told us what they told us," said Thomas H. Kean, the former New Jersey Republican governor who led the commission. 'It was just so far from the truth. . . . It's one of those loose ends that never got tied."
So, if 9/11 didn't have an inside element, what's to stop such a scenario from taking place in the future when we get investigations that have attributes like these? 

It is therefore the purpose of this website to rebut the hollow claims of the so-called 911 truth "debunkers" and clarify what is known about the attacks for the benefit of those following the debate and also for the largely uninformed public. This site now features 9/11 truth related and not-so-related content. So please utilize our search feature (found also on the sidebar) to find a massive treasure trove of well-researched info on nearly every issue in the realm of 9/11 truth debate. 

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Friday, May 25, 2018

Debunking Russian Involvement in the MH17 Shootdown: Arms Manufacturer Almaz-Antey Delivers MH17 Report [ft. Addition Analysis, Evidence and Observations]

Russian arms manufacturer Almaz-Antey is presenting the results of its probe into the alleged missile launch that may have downed the MH17 Malaysian Airlines plane over eastern Ukraine, July 17, 2014.



These tests clearly refuted the 'Russian supplied BUK missile' hypothesis for the shoot-down, showing that if that type of missile (BUK-M1) hit at the angles observed in the wreckage of MH17, the damage should have been greater (1:03) and many distinctive 'butterfly' holes would have been present. Such holes were not observed. The presenters believed that only an older type of BUK missile, not used by Russia, may have been used.

It is more likely, considering the lack of penetrative power from the fragments in the MH17 debris, that another type of smaller missile was the candidate for the incident - perhaps an air-to-air weapon since military jets were seen by witnesses at the time of the attack:



The Dutch Safety Board presentation regarding this same incident (the 30 min video below) was extremely light on forensics (although they concur with the Russians on the location of the missile at the time of detonation). They did say that butterfly fragments had been taken out of some victims, but the question is, where are the butterfly patterns on the skin of the aircraft? The distinctive patterning seen in the Russian test was nowhere to be found.

Also, this Dutch presentation says there were no other aircraft on radar at the time of the incident, to rule out an air-to-air missile, whereas the Russians showed there were fighter sized targets on their scopes - backing up the witness reports that appeared in the BBC Russia news story (see the above video). And the Russians requested the US release their satellite images of the crime scene and Washington refused. The US satellite was right overhead at the time and would have easily seen the launch vehicle and the distinctive smoke trail from the missile. This smoke trail should have also been seen by witnesses for many miles around and would have appeared on cell phone videos and photographs - but wasn't.

We must remember that the Ukrainians, suspects in this crime, were party to the investigation. And regardless of whether or not you think Governments could lie about such things, we do have the problem of the forensic evidence. It doesn't matter what you assume - we have a fundamental issue with the raw data not matching the western account of what happened.



Related Info:

1. 'MH17 crash' test simulation video: Il-86 plane cockpit hit with BUK missile [where you can see the extent of the damage that would have occurred if MH17 was hit by a BUK at close range]



2. Ukrainian Government using doctored footage to show a BUK launcher in a 'rebel held' area [all such Ukrainian Government material, laundered on the internet, has been fraudulent in nature]:



3. UPDATE: 

Russian MoD Criticizes MH17 Investigation for Using Social Media, Not Witnesses (no missiles crossed the border and no missile launch took place on the Eastern side - MoD)


[Posted at the SpookyWeather blog, May 26th, 2018.]

MK-Ultra Victims Speak Out, Minuteman Missile Guards Drop LSD

As Air Force troops guarding nuclear missiles are discovered to have been taking LSD and other hallucinogens, the CIA’s mind control program, MK-Ultra, that gave birth to LSD is back in the news. Canadian victims and their families have started a class action suit that may expose the CIA program that continues today with different tech and different names.



MK-Ultra Victims Speak Out, Minuteman Missile Guards Drop LSD

Related:

The CIA Commits Over 100,000 Serious Crimes Each Year:

http://911debunkers.blogspot.com/2011/03/cia-commits-over-100000-serious-crimes.html


Two Key Things That Got Overlooked About Project MK Ultra:


http://mindtreasury.blogspot.com/2017/09/two-key-things-that-got-overlooked.html


Cruz Demeanor In Court, MKULTRA? 'Voices' Prompted Massacre - 3 Witnesses: Multiple Shooters, 'Shots Were Coming from Other Part of Building' from Where She Was WALKING with Cruz - 'I Was Surprised You Weren't the One Who Did It' 'Obviously, Definitely, Another Shooter Involved' - ‘Active Shooter Drill’ Hours Before, Secret Service Changed Safety Protocol Weeks Before:

http://trumpisright.blogspot.com/2018/02/cruz-demeanor-in-court-mkultra-voices.html

Thursday, May 24, 2018

Sunday, May 20, 2018

Judge Jeanine: Sessions is the most dangerous man in America - Admits Conspiracy Theorists and Trump Were Right about Spying and Deep State! 'He Was Right! He Was Right!'



Judge Jeanine: Sessions is the most dangerous man in America - Admits Conspiracy Theorists and Trump Were Right about Spying and Deep State! 'He Was Right! He Was Right!'

Related:

Confirmed: FBI Was Spying on the Trump Campaign - The FBI Spied on Donald Trump: Legacy Media Runs Massive Damage Control - FBI SPY-OP EXPOSED: TRUMP CAMPAIGN INFILTRATED BY LONGTIME CIA/MI6 ASSET

FISA Memo Released: Proof of DNC FBI Collusion, and, Yes, Worse than Watergate - Tom Fitton Blasts Paul Ryan on FISA Memo

Deep State Spied on both Trump and Sen Sessions

Mueller/FBI: The Deep State Rats Nest Soft Coup Proves Trump Right When Tapping Manafort and Company - BIGGER Than Watergate! Trump Was Right And Limbaugh Knew It: Obama Wiretapped Trump

Roger Stone: Mueller Has Told Manafort To Lie About Trump Or He Will Be Railroaded To Prison - Full Show - Trump Right About Illegal Spying / Morgan Freeman Goes Completely Insane - 09/19/2017

FBI May Have Spied on POTUS Trump

Susan Rice Lied About Unmasking Trump Campaign Members, Media Lauds Her

BREAKING: Samantha Power Caught Unmasking ‘Hundreds’ In Final Year Of Obama Admin

LIMBAUGH: Focus On Russians Is A Deflection From Obama SPYING On The Trump Campaign

Obama Violated Fourth Amendment, Sought Unredacted Intel on US Citizens During Election

BREAKING! TRUMP WAS 100% RIGHT! THE GUARDIAN JUST PROVED FOX NEWS’ JUDGE NAP WAS RIGHT ALL ALONG! - CNN Confirms Judge Napolitano Was Right British Intelligence Help Obama Spy On Trump

New Wiretap Report Unravels CNN's Obama/Susan Rice Cover Up

BREAKING!!! THE FBI JUST CONFIRMED 100% TRUMP WAS RIGHT!!! WE HAVE THE EVIDENCE OBAMA SPIED!!!

LIMBAUGH: TRUMP WAS RIGHT In Claiming That Obama Wiretapped Him - RUSH: 'Very Clear' Obama Admin Spied On Trump And Rice Is Lying Because Those Things Happened Before

Susan Rice Is The First Official To Be Identified As Unmasking Trump People For Political Purposes - Susan Rice Reportedly "Unmasked" Trump in Incidental Data Collection

CNN BREAKING NEWS: TRUMP WIRETAP EVIDENCE CONFIRMED. Trump Spied On By Incidental Collection

Obama's Own Defense Deputy Accidentally Admits Obama Admin Spied On Trump - HANNITY AMBER ALERT: "Evelyn Farkas Get An Attorney Immediately"

Whistle Blower Dennis Montgomery Claims Obama Administration Spied On Trump's Team

Bill Mitchell: Trump always ends up being right. It's almost a little freaky. - The Hoax Collapses: House Intel Chair Says Trump WAS Surveilled

NSA DOCUMENTS PROVE SURVEILLANCE OF DONALD TRUMP & HIS FAMILY